Comments on: Bill Would Double Cap on H-1B Visas – CIO.com http://www.macdork.com/index.php/2008/03/17/bill-would-double-cap-on-h-1b-visas-ciocom/ Dorkus Malorkus Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:18:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3-aortic-dissection By: Dork http://www.macdork.com/index.php/2008/03/17/bill-would-double-cap-on-h-1b-visas-ciocom/comment-page-1/#comment-8623 Dork Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:45:17 +0000 http://www.macdork.com/index.php/?p=493#comment-8623 Sadly, I think we both suffer from the same problem: we actually expect people to not suck. I've found that many of the H-1B people I've run into are VERY tightly focused on one particular technology, which is fantastic for hiring them to do a specific job, but as the economy tanks, we need more and more people w/ some all-around talent, too. When layoffs come and we're left w/ a bunch of too-specific workers, things go south really quickly as they try to stretch to cover the shortages and start breaking things they don't know much about. It's not their fault they don't know enough general skills, but it still sucks to walk into a shop that's being run by guys who confide in me that "I was never trained on how to run this -- they just told me to do my best." Sadly, I think we both suffer from the same problem: we actually expect people to not suck. I’ve found that many of the H-1B people I’ve run into are VERY tightly focused on one particular technology, which is fantastic for hiring them to do a specific job, but as the economy tanks, we need more and more people w/ some all-around talent, too. When layoffs come and we’re left w/ a bunch of too-specific workers, things go south really quickly as they try to stretch to cover the shortages and start breaking things they don’t know much about.

It’s not their fault they don’t know enough general skills, but it still sucks to walk into a shop that’s being run by guys who confide in me that “I was never trained on how to run this — they just told me to do my best.”

]]> By: Tony http://www.macdork.com/index.php/2008/03/17/bill-would-double-cap-on-h-1b-visas-ciocom/comment-page-1/#comment-8622 Tony Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:23:18 +0000 http://www.macdork.com/index.php/?p=493#comment-8622 2 things: 1. My only real problem with illegal immigrants is that they break the law as their first act in the country (by definition). I believe that there probably needs to be a change in policy somewhere to handle the situation, but it still kind of rubs me the wrong way. I guess it seems a bit rude, but I realize that rudeness is hardly a consideration if you are starving. 2. H1Bs are a crock. We don't train enough engineers here because there isn't enough emphasis put on education. H1Bs are a way to get cheaper labor that can't job hunt while also ignoring the ailing education system. Also, the quality of Software Engineers I have come across from overseas is pretty spotty. Some folks are great, most suck. That may just be the result of the higher number of students graduating overseas. I would guess that I would find the same situation with Americans, but to be honest I almost never work with other American-born developers. 2 things:

1. My only real problem with illegal immigrants is that they break the law as their first act in the country (by definition). I believe that there probably needs to be a change in policy somewhere to handle the situation, but it still kind of rubs me the wrong way. I guess it seems a bit rude, but I realize that rudeness is hardly a consideration if you are starving.

2. H1Bs are a crock. We don’t train enough engineers here because there isn’t enough emphasis put on education. H1Bs are a way to get cheaper labor that can’t job hunt while also ignoring the ailing education system. Also, the quality of Software Engineers I have come across from overseas is pretty spotty. Some folks are great, most suck. That may just be the result of the higher number of students graduating overseas. I would guess that I would find the same situation with Americans, but to be honest I almost never work with other American-born developers.

]]> By: Dork http://www.macdork.com/index.php/2008/03/17/bill-would-double-cap-on-h-1b-visas-ciocom/comment-page-1/#comment-8620 Dork Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:45:39 +0000 http://www.macdork.com/index.php/?p=493#comment-8620 Yep -- nothing compliments a great meal more than engrossing conversation. Like talking about phallic phones. Yep — nothing compliments a great meal more than engrossing conversation. Like talking about phallic phones.

]]> By: Holly http://www.macdork.com/index.php/2008/03/17/bill-would-double-cap-on-h-1b-visas-ciocom/comment-page-1/#comment-8619 Holly Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:42:15 +0000 http://www.macdork.com/index.php/?p=493#comment-8619 Two of the most interesting people you know, eh? I'll be sure to pass the compliment along :) Glad you found the conversation interesting :) Two of the most interesting people you know, eh? I’ll be sure to pass the compliment along :) Glad you found the conversation interesting :)

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